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TBS 6903X reviews and tests

Postby iko » Wed Nov 08, 2023 5:16 pm

I would be interested in your opinions on the TBS 6903X card?

After a month of testing, I am disappointed with this card.

Compared to the TBS 5927 card, the sensitivity of the tuner is significantly weaker. It has problems tuning some transponders. (Linux)
Blindscan is slow. Sometimes it misses even strong transponders. Tested via EBSPro 18.0.0.4 (Win)
It is having problems with MIS debugging (RAI 5W). I can only tune in to one stream at a time. At the next stream, it will say tuning failed. (Linux).
After locking any data transponders for example Eutelsat 16A, freq. 12507 H.... DVB-S2 TP lock, but it won't search for any stations... Only a driver restart will help...

The only advantage over TBS5927 for me is DVB-S2X support.
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Re: TBS 6903X reviews and tests

Postby crazycat » Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:59 am

iko Wrote:Compared to the TBS 5927 card, the sensitivity of the tuner is significantly weaker. It has problems tuning some transponders. (Linux)

This normal for FBC tuners.

iko Wrote:Blindscan is slow. Sometimes it misses even strong transponders. Tested via EBSPro 18.0.0.4 (Win)

Fast blindscan not implemented (BLScan2). Only slow step-by-step BLScan

iko Wrote:After locking any data transponders for example Eutelsat 16A, freq. 12507 H.... DVB-S2 TP lock, but it won't search for any stations... Only a driver restart will help...

fixed - https://github.com/tbsdtv/linux_media/c ... 56890954c6

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boss@computer:~/.szap$ scan-s2 -a2 0160.ini
API major 5, minor 11
ERROR: Cannot open rotor configuration file 'rotor.conf'.
scanning 0160.ini
using '/dev/dvb/adapter2/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter2/demux0'
ERROR: invalid enum value '1/4'
initial transponder DVB-S2 12510000 H 1585000 AUTO 20 QPSK 0 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12521000 V 19360000 2/3 20 QPSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12527000 H 4799000 3/4 35 8PSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12537000 H 10830000 3/5 20 8PSK 0 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12540000 V 13460000 3/4 20 QPSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12547000 H 3165000 2/3 20 8PSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S  12567000 H 3702000 7/8 35 QPSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12571000 V 16660000 2/3 20 QPSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12596000 H 4799000 3/4 25 8PSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S  12597000 V 2499000 2/3 35 QPSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12605000 H 7198000 3/4 25 8PSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S  12630000 H 3614000 3/4 35 QPSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12643000 H 10830000 3/5 20 8PSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12647000 V 27490000 2/3 20 8PSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S  12678000 H 2928000 3/4 35 QPSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12680000 V 6998000 AUTO 35 AUTO 0 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12687000 H 7198000 3/4 25 8PSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12697000 H 2221000 4/5 20 QPSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12721000 H 6248000 3/4 20 QPSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12728000 H 4099000 3/4 20 QPSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12746000 H 999000 2/3 20 QPSK -1 0 0
initial transponder DVB-S2 12749000 H 2088000 1/2 35 QPSK -1 0 0
----------------------------------> Using DVB-S2
>>> tune to: 12510:HM2O20S1P0:S0.0W:1585:
DVB-S IF freq is 1910000
status 1f | signal strength  50% | snr  48% | ber 0 | unc 0
WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x0011
WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x0000
WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x0010
----------------------------------> Using DVB-S2
>>> tune to: 12521:VC23M2O20S1:S0.0W:19360:
DVB-S IF freq is 1921000
status 1f | signal strength  59% | snr  35% | ber 0 | unc 0
>>> parse_section, section number 0 out of 0...!
service_id = 0x0
service_id = 0x1DB1
pmt_pid = 0x7DA
service_id = 0x1DB2
pmt_pid = 0x7E4
service_id = 0x1DB3
pmt_pid = 0x7EE
service_id = 0x1DB4
pmt_pid = 0x7F8
service_id = 0x1DB5
pmt_pid = 0x802
service_id = 0x1DBA
pmt_pid = 0x80C
service_id = 0x1DB7
pmt_pid = 0x816
>>> parse_section, section number 0 out of 0...!
  CA ID     : PID 0x0B00
  AUDIO     : PID 0x080E
  VIDEO     : PID 0x080D
  OTHER     : PID 0x0810 TYPE 0x86
  AUDIO     : PID 0x080F
>>> parse_section, section number 0 out of 0...!
  CA ID     : PID 0x0B00
  AUDIO     : PID 0x0818
  VIDEO     : PID 0x0817
>>> parse_section, section number 0 out of 0...!
  CA ID     : PID 0x0B00
  AUDIO     : PID 0x07DC
  VIDEO     : PID 0x07DB
>>> parse_section, section number 0 out of 0...!
  CA ID     : PID 0x0B00
  AUDIO     : PID 0x07E6
  VIDEO     : PID 0x07E5
>>> parse_section, section number 0 out of 0...!
  AUDIO     : PID 0x07F0
  VIDEO     : PID 0x07EF
>>> parse_section, section number 0 out of 0...!
  CA ID     : PID 0x0B00
  AUDIO     : PID 0x07FA
  VIDEO     : PID 0x07F9
>>> parse_section, section number 0 out of 0...!
  CA ID     : PID 0x0B00
  AUDIO     : PID 0x0804
  VIDEO     : PID 0x0803
>>> parse_section, section number 0 out of 0...!
0x145C 0x1DB1: pmt_pid 0x07DA PROTV -- PRO TV (running, scrambled)
0x145C 0x1DB2: pmt_pid 0x07E4 PROTV -- ACASA (running, scrambled)
0x145C 0x1DB3: pmt_pid 0x07EE PROTV -- PRO TV International (running)
0x145C 0x1DB4: pmt_pid 0x07F8 PROTV -- PRO Cinema (running, scrambled)
0x145C 0x1DB5: pmt_pid 0x0802 PROTV -- PRO ARENA (running, scrambled)
0x145C 0x1DBA: pmt_pid 0x080C PROTV -- TEST HD (running, scrambled)
0x145C 0x1DB7: pmt_pid 0x0816 PROTV -- ACASA GOLD (running, scrambled)
>>> parse_section, section number 0 out of 0...!
Network Name 'Protv'
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Re: TBS 6903X reviews and tests

Postby iko » Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:04 am

The TBS6903X is referred to as a PROFI card. For 400 euros, I expected more.

iko Wrote:After locking any data transponders for example Eutelsat 16A, freq. 12507 H.... DVB-S2 TP lock, but it won't search for any stations... Only a driver restart will help...

fixed - https://github.com/tbsdtv/linux_media/c ... 56890954c6

Solved. Well thank you.
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Re: TBS 6903X reviews and tests

Postby frankviana » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:18 pm

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Blindscan is slow. Sometimes it misses even strong transponders. Tested via EBSPro 18.0.0.4 (Win)
Fast blindscan not implemented (BLScan2). Only slow step-by-step BLScan


No way (near future) this option BLScan2?
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Re: TBS 6903X reviews and tests

Postby stefki » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:48 pm

Click to view report Click to view report

tested the card on proskytv.net very stable iptv.
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Re: TBS 6903X reviews and tests

Postby KAWUMMK » Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:09 am

I buyed this Card TBS6903X and do it some test on system
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first card doing massiv problems with Powermanagement in windows , cant wak up again ,failure > after restart works again
second , the Big -Problem . this card has 2 tuners ,but both together with each software not works.
System totally crashing ,. why we buy a twin tuner card and there only working only 1 tuner ???
there is Help needed. Is there any for help ?
wenn nicht schicke ich diese Karte als definitiv defekt zurück!
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Re: TBS 6903X reviews and tests

Postby KAWUMMK » Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:35 pm

here a pic from powermanagement-failure
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Re: TBS 6903X reviews and tests

Postby KAWUMMK » Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:22 pm

and here some pics when crashed and the last after close tuner1 and restart tuner1 works ok!
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Re: TBS 6903X reviews and tests

Postby KAWUMMK » Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:08 am

erst nach veröffentlichung meiner daten dank Crazycat wurde unter Crazyscan in die richtige Richtung gearbeitet, zwar mit fehler noch aber besser wie garnix! an den Daten sieht man obwohl unterschiedliche Device bei beiden angesprochen wird ,greifen beide auf die gleiche Device zu !
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nach Wiederholung erneut FAIL
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Kann man endlich hoffen das sich die karten seitens der Devices sich gegeneinander sperren so wie andere Karten das auch machen .... DANKE!!!
Wieso aber mit sehr guter Erkennung der Streambeschaffenheit und dB-Zahl keine Symbolrate/Modulation erkennt (besonders die ganz ganz starken Streams , die meistens feeds werden gut gefunden ??? Signal am Eingang vielleicht ein bisschen zustark/übersteuert ??)
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wie alle anderen bleibt mir persönlich schleierhaft!

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selbst auf 30W keinen einzigen channel-Transponder wurde erfasst nur Daten -Transponder
wo soll diese Karte in Profi-Modus sein ?im Nichterkennen?? Sorry Ziel total verfehlt! oder steckt dahinter sogar massive Absicht??
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Re: TBS 6903X reviews and tests

Postby KAWUMMK » Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:29 am

hier weiteres nichtfinden bei exact gleicher Peripheriegeräte ! links anderes und rechts "TBS6903X" zeitgleich!!! Biloder neigen zu 64APSK-S2X
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Hispasat 1D-1E 30.0W 3300 DVBS/S2 Tuner A 11891 Horizontal 34290,376 32APSK 5/6 DVB-S2 ON 0.20 Normal ACM 141,789 41,148 9,0 -51 MIS: 1, BER: 0,0000000, Time to lock: - ms 08.03.2024 23:56:27

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selbst manual-punkt-Blindscan geht da nicht bei Symbolrate-erkennung!
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