New TBS6925 can receive and demodulate 32APSK?

[satesco]

yes, that is confirmed now without any doubt, because now i can get two different channel lists from every Mediaset frequency, which is showing in practice that indeed there are 2 active streams and they are actually using Multiple Input Stream feature.

What tool or player you used to memorize the channels on this transponder? I see the transponder signal{AB1-12718 H}, but after the scan does not give me anything.
On the other hand I want to know what the minimum level signal must have transponder to be scanned?Because I have very good signal{85-90 % Q} on most transponders-AB3 5W but my signal bar indicates low quality on transponder{12585 H VCM-around 14 % Q} and zero quality on 12673 H APSK with 6925 tuner card.It should be an explanation for this.
I use tbc 5925 drivers for XP 32.Waiting to see how it behaves tbs6925 on Windows 7 64 bit.

[newsy]

is there anyone able to lock the TV Numéric transponders listed on Flysat with this card?
11137 V and 11511 H are probably DVB-DSNG with 8PSK modulation. If I understand correctly they use 8PSK with the error correction Reed-Solomon as used in DVB-S(1), so no reception with usual DVB-S2 cards. So is this card supporting 8PSK dvb-dsng?

[8PSKACM]

@satesco - be aware that Mediaset has changed again the way that they broadcasting channels at 13E & 5W. Probably they went to higher modulation with combination of VCM/MIS, maybe some other tricks. I don't know will there be possibility to view Mediaset channels at 6925 after these changes. Informations that were in this thread about Mediaset that were posted earlier are not actual anymore.

[Derrick]

IMHO TBS sucks. They are talking for almost a year about these modulation schemes but they are not able to provide a working application. Detailed questions are not answered and the one and only expert seems to have abandoned the sinking ship

Rumors and speculations that some providers may have changed the modulation parameters are a laugh. They have to comply to the same open standards. Of course the streams could be scrambled. Only for that TBS can't be blamed

[8PSKACM]

Mediaset changed their parameters for real, nothing to laugh about. Working solution for it was already present. Mediaset absolutely don't have to comply anything, because feeds from 13E & 5W are for local DTT usage, not for watching, especially outside Italia. They changed way of transmitting data to be sure that noboby will be able to watch these feeds straight from satellite in any possible way.

Look at this page: http://forum.satkurier.pl/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=15064

Mr. Orbita published there screenshot with Mediaset Rete 4 HD from Hot Bird ( http://img810.imageshack.us/f/8pskacm.jpg/ ), which was received well in september 2010 by TBS6925 (then CX23885 based, they had to change PCIe bridge because CX23885 was too slow for 32APSK high datarates). Anyhow just one month later some other users in the same topic wrote there that Mediaset packages are no longer available, because of some changes that they made to stream. AFAIK Mr. Orbita cannot receive Mediaset anymore, but that not mean that Mediaset will not work - Mr. Orbita have older hardware revision. Situation can be different with latest TBS6925 - it need to be checked by anyone with latest TBS6925 and users should send more info about this to TBS. Maybe if it won't work - it can be fixed? Of course until Mediaset will do another change - this is like war, Mediaset temporary wins

Today Mr. Orbita published another screenshot, this time from TivuItalia from 31,5E (16APSK) from TBS6925: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1295/tivu.jpg

TBS6925 is working for real. Of course it is not polished yet, but be aware that it is also not in stock. TBS6925 could be obtained only for some users who decide to buy it for testing purposes.

But it is true that I didn't see cody for some time

[EnoSat]

11013 H on HotBird now use Mediaset DTT

[steven]

Hi all
good news for us,cody have made a new progress.
below is his test report.
successful lock Mediaset ,and MIS stream.

[crazycat]

Today Mr. Orbita published another screenshot, this time from TivuItalia from 31,5E (16APSK) from TBS6925: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1295/tivu.jpg

31.5E - 11915,H,27500,8PSK/ACM, multistream. Now contain only one substream (2) with DVB-T multiplex TivuItalia:
http://crazycat69.narod.ru/sattelite/scan/900AAC/0315-11915H-TSReader.png
http://crazycat69.narod.ru/sattelite/scan/900AAC/0315-11915H-SportItalia.png
http://crazycat69.narod.ru/sattelite/scan/900AAC/0315-11915H-SportItalia2.png
http://crazycat69.narod.ru/sattelite/scan/900AAC/0315-11915H-SportItalia24.png
http://crazycat69.narod.ru/sattelite/scan/900AAC/0315-11915H-TestCard.png

BlindScan & Constellation diagram for this transponder - http://crazycat69.narod.ru/sattelite/scan/900AAC/0315-11915H.png
BlindScan mistake with modulation, because many dummy frames

And some interest 16APSK, 32APSK transponders with data on 31.5E:
http://crazycat69.narod.ru/sattelite/scan/900AAC/0315-12188H.png
http://crazycat69.narod.ru/sattelite/scan/900AAC/0315-11973V.png

And i can it receive with my card, based on STV6110+STV0900AAC. Maybe some frame-relay, not MPE.

[satesco]

Hi steven,

I also got this transponder at last:


Scan with ProgDB:


@ 8PSKACM,Thanks for inside info about Mediaset{HB}.

[EnoSat]

http://ipbox.wz.cz/12718h.htm - all 4 package on transponder