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Problem in DVB-S QPSK

Problem in DVB-S QPSK

Postby xfileslv » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:06 am

Hello.

Why is Symbol Rate is 44950 all channels from this transporder get many CC errors ?
Please help.

My tests in software astra and getstream a84.


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OS : Linux Slackware 13.37 x86
Kernel : 2.6.34.12
TBS drivers : last current version..
Motherboard : Intel DP67BG
Bios last version.


Test 1 :
Topology :
Input D (adapter0) connected to satellite 53E 11044:V:44950 (max is 45k)
Input C (adapter1) connected to satellite 53E 11161:V:5785
Input B (adapter2) connected to satellite 13E 10815:H:27500
Input A (adapter3) connected to satellite 13E 11566:H:27500

if i take all channels from 4 inputs (A-3,B-2,C-1,D-0) - i get many CC in input D (adapter0)
if i take only channels from only 1 input (D-0) - no CC, all works perfect no problem (adapter0)
if i take channels from 2 inputs (D-0,C-1) - no errors, all works perfect no problem (adapter0 and adapter1)
if i take channels from 3 inputs (D-0, C-1, B-2) - no errors, all works perfect (adapter 0, adapter 1 and adapter 2)
if i take channels from 3 inputs (D-0, C-1, D-3) - no errors, all works perfect (adapter 0, adapter 1 and adapter 3)
if i take channels from 3 inputs (D-0, B-2, D-3) - i get many CC in input D (adapter0), others inputs work without CC (adapter 0, adapter 2 and adapter 3)
if i take channels from 3 inputs (C-1, B-2, D-3) - no errors, all works perfect (adapter 1, adapter 2 and adapter 3)

Result : problem in input D (adapter0) where Symbol Rate is 44950.

Test 2 :
I change topology :
*Input D (adapter0) connected to satellite 13E 11566:H:27500
Input C (adapter1) connected to satellite 53E 11161:V:5785
Input B (adapter2) connected to satellite 13E 10815:H:27500
*Input A (adapter3) connected to satellite 53E 11044:V:44950

this same CC errors but in input A (adapter3) where Symbol Rate is 44950.

Test 3:
I change topology :
Input D (adapter0) connected to satellite 13E 11566:H:27500
Input C (adapter1) connected to satellite 53E 11161:V:5785
Input B (adapter2) connected to satellite 13E 10815:H:27500
*Input A (adapter3) connected to satellite 4,8E 11843:H:27500

Result: NO CC!!!

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# femon -H -a 0
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  87% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
# femon -H -a 1
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  78% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
# femon -H -a 2
status 1f | signal  49% | snr  65% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
# femon -H -a 3
status 1f | signal  49% | snr  92% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK


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tbs6982fe: module license 'TurboSight Proprietary: www.tbsdtv.com' taints kernel.
Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
SAA716x TBS 0000:07:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
SAA716x TBS 0000:07:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
IR NEC protocol handler initialized
IR RC5(x) protocol handler initialized
IR RC6 protocol handler initialized
IR JVC protocol handler initialized
IR Sony protocol handler initialized
Registered IR keymap rc-tbs-nec
input: saa716x IR (TurboSight TBS 6984) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.4/0000:07:00.0/rc/rc0/input1
rc0: saa716x IR (TurboSight TBS 6984) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.4/0000:07:00.0/rc/rc0
DVB: registering new adapter (SAA716x dvb adapter)
input: MCE IR Keyboard/Mouse (saa716x) as /devices/virtual/input/input2
IR MCE Keyboard/mouse protocol handler initialized
lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, major 253
TurboSight TBS 6984 Frontend 0 Attaching...
rc rc0: lirc_dev: driver ir-lirc-codec (saa716x) registered at minor = 0
IR LIRC bridge handler initialized
TurboSight TBS6984 DVB-S2 card port0 MAC=00:22:ab:90:1a:d4
DVB: registering adapter 0 frontend 0 (TurboSight TBS 6984 DVBS/S2 frontend)...
DVB: registering new adapter (SAA716x dvb adapter)
TurboSight TBS 6984 Frontend 1 Attaching...
TurboSight TBS6984 DVB-S2 card port1 MAC=00:22:ab:90:1a:d5
DVB: registering adapter 1 frontend 0 (TurboSight TBS 6984 DVBS/S2 frontend)...
DVB: registering new adapter (SAA716x dvb adapter)
TurboSight TBS 6984 Frontend 2 Attaching...
TurboSight TBS6984 DVB-S2 card port2 MAC=00:22:ab:90:1a:d6
DVB: registering adapter 2 frontend 0 (TurboSight TBS 6984 DVBS/S2 frontend)...
DVB: registering new adapter (SAA716x dvb adapter)
TurboSight TBS 6984 Frontend 3 Attaching...
TurboSight TBS6984 DVB-S2 card port3 MAC=00:22:ab:90:1a:d7
DVB: registering adapter 3 frontend 0 (TurboSight TBS 6984 DVBS/S2 frontend)...
SAA716x TBS 0000:08:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
SAA716x TBS 0000:08:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
Registered IR keymap rc-tbs-nec
input: saa716x IR (TurboSight TBS 6984) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.5/0000:08:00.0/rc/rc1/input3
rc1: saa716x IR (TurboSight TBS 6984) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.5/0000:08:00.0/rc/rc1
input: MCE IR Keyboard/Mouse (saa716x) as /devices/virtual/input/input4
rc rc1: lirc_dev: driver ir-lirc-codec (saa716x) registered at minor = 1
DVB: registering new adapter (SAA716x dvb adapter)
TurboSight TBS 6984 Frontend 0 Attaching...
TurboSight TBS6984 DVB-S2 card port0 MAC=00:22:ab:90:1a:d0
DVB: registering adapter 4 frontend 0 (TurboSight TBS 6984 DVBS/S2 frontend)...
DVB: registering new adapter (SAA716x dvb adapter)
TurboSight TBS 6984 Frontend 1 Attaching...
TurboSight TBS6984 DVB-S2 card port1 MAC=00:22:ab:90:1a:d1
DVB: registering adapter 5 frontend 0 (TurboSight TBS 6984 DVBS/S2 frontend)...
DVB: registering new adapter (SAA716x dvb adapter)
TurboSight TBS 6984 Frontend 2 Attaching...
TurboSight TBS6984 DVB-S2 card port2 MAC=00:22:ab:90:1a:d2
DVB: registering adapter 6 frontend 0 (TurboSight TBS 6984 DVBS/S2 frontend)...
DVB: registering new adapter (SAA716x dvb adapter)
TurboSight TBS 6984 Frontend 3 Attaching...
TurboSight TBS6984 DVB-S2 card port3 MAC=00:22:ab:90:1a:d3
DVB: registering adapter 7 frontend 0 (TurboSight TBS 6984 DVBS/S2 frontend)...
SAA716x TBS 0000:09:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18
SAA716x TBS 0000:09:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
Registered IR keymap rc-tbs-nec
input: saa716x IR (TurboSight TBS 6984) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.6/0000:09:00.0/rc/rc2/input5
rc2: saa716x IR (TurboSight TBS 6984) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.6/0000:09:00.0/rc/rc2
input: MCE IR Keyboard/Mouse (saa716x) as /devices/virtual/input/input6
rc rc2: lirc_dev: driver ir-lirc-codec (saa716x) registered at minor = 2
DVB: registering new adapter (SAA716x dvb adapter)
TurboSight TBS 6984 Frontend 0 Attaching...
TurboSight TBS6984 DVB-S2 card port0 MAC=00:22:ab:90:1a:dc
DVB: registering adapter 8 frontend 0 (TurboSight TBS 6984 DVBS/S2 frontend)...
DVB: registering new adapter (SAA716x dvb adapter)
TurboSight TBS 6984 Frontend 1 Attaching...
TurboSight TBS6984 DVB-S2 card port1 MAC=00:22:ab:90:1a:dd
DVB: registering adapter 9 frontend 0 (TurboSight TBS 6984 DVBS/S2 frontend)...
DVB: registering new adapter (SAA716x dvb adapter)
TurboSight TBS 6984 Frontend 2 Attaching...
TurboSight TBS6984 DVB-S2 card port2 MAC=00:22:ab:90:1a:de
DVB: registering adapter 10 frontend 0 (TurboSight TBS 6984 DVBS/S2 frontend)...
DVB: registering new adapter (SAA716x dvb adapter)
TurboSight TBS 6984 Frontend 3 Attaching...
TurboSight TBS6984 DVB-S2 card port3 MAC=00:22:ab:90:1a:df
DVB: registering adapter 11 frontend 0 (TurboSight TBS 6984 DVBS/S2 frontend)...


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# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
tbsfe                    681  12
isl6423                 1855  0
ir_lirc_codec           3623  0
tbs6984fe              67655  12
lirc_dev                7659  1 ir_lirc_codec
ir_mce_kbd_decoder      3642  0
ir_sony_decoder         1735  0
ir_jvc_decoder          1861  0
rc_tbs_nec               872  0
ir_rc6_decoder          2213  0
ir_rc5_decoder          1733  0
ir_nec_decoder          2213  0
saa716x_tbs_dvb        34897  0
tbs6928fe               9036  1 saa716x_tbs_dvb
tbs6922fe              10696  1 saa716x_tbs_dvb
rc_core                12679  12 ir_lirc_codec,ir_mce_kbd_decoder,ir_sony_decoder,ir_jvc_decoder,rc_tbs_nec,ir_rc6_decoder,ir_rc5_decoder,ir_nec_decoder,saa716x_tbs_dvb
saa716x_core           34095  35 saa716x_tbs_dvb
dvb_core               73024  2 saa716x_tbs_dvb,saa716x_core
i2c_algo_bit            4239  1 saa716x_tbs_dvb
tbs6618fe               7277  1 saa716x_tbs_dvb
tbs6991fe               9548  1 saa716x_tbs_dvb
stv090x                53457  1 saa716x_tbs_dvb
tbs6680fe               7277  1 saa716x_tbs_dvb
tbs6982fe              11143  1 saa716x_tbs_dvb
i2c_core               13875  12 isl6423,tbs6984fe,saa716x_tbs_dvb,tbs6928fe,tbs6922fe,saa716x_core,i2c_algo_bit,tbs6618fe,tbs6991fe,stv090x,tbs6680fe,tbs6982fe
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Re: Problem in DVB-S QPSK

Postby xfileslv » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:09 am

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07:00.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7160 (rev 02)
        Subsystem: Device 6984:0013
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
        Region 0: Memory at f3400000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
        Capabilities: [40] MSI: Enable- Count=1/32 Maskable- 64bit+
                Address: 0000000000000000  Data: 0000
        Capabilities: [50] Express (v1) Endpoint, MSI 00
                DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <256ns, L1 <1us
                        ExtTag- AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE- FLReset-
                DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
                        RlxdOrd+ ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop-
                        MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
                DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr- TransPend-
                LnkCap: Port #1, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L0s L1, Latency L0 <4us, L1 <64us
                        ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot-
                LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; RCB 128 bytes Disabled- Retrain- CommClk-
                        ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
                LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, TrErr- Train- SlotClk- DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
        Capabilities: [74] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
        Capabilities: [80] Vendor Specific Information: Len=50 <?>
        Capabilities: [100 v1] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0000 Rev=0 Len=088 <?>
        Kernel driver in use: SAA716x TBS
        Kernel modules: saa716x_tbs-dvb

08:00.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7160 (rev 02)
        Subsystem: Device 6984:0013
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17
        Region 0: Memory at f3300000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
        Capabilities: [40] MSI: Enable- Count=1/32 Maskable- 64bit+
                Address: 0000000000000000  Data: 0000
        Capabilities: [50] Express (v1) Endpoint, MSI 00
                DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <256ns, L1 <1us
                        ExtTag- AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE- FLReset-
                DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
                        RlxdOrd+ ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop-
                        MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
                DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr- TransPend-
                LnkCap: Port #1, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L0s L1, Latency L0 <4us, L1 <64us
                        ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot-
                LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; RCB 128 bytes Disabled- Retrain- CommClk-
                        ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
                LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, TrErr- Train- SlotClk- DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
        Capabilities: [74] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
        Capabilities: [80] Vendor Specific Information: Len=50 <?>
        Capabilities: [100 v1] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0000 Rev=0 Len=088 <?>
        Kernel driver in use: SAA716x TBS
        Kernel modules: saa716x_tbs-dvb

09:00.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7160 (rev 02)
        Subsystem: Device 6984:0013
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18
        Region 0: Memory at f3200000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
        Capabilities: [40] MSI: Enable- Count=1/32 Maskable- 64bit+
                Address: 0000000000000000  Data: 0000
        Capabilities: [50] Express (v1) Endpoint, MSI 00
                DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <256ns, L1 <1us
                        ExtTag- AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE- FLReset-
                DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
                        RlxdOrd+ ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop-
                        MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
                DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr- TransPend-
                LnkCap: Port #1, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L0s L1, Latency L0 <4us, L1 <64us
                        ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot-
                LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; RCB 128 bytes Disabled- Retrain- CommClk-
                        ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
                LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, TrErr- Train- SlotClk- DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
        Capabilities: [74] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
        Capabilities: [80] Vendor Specific Information: Len=50 <?>
        Capabilities: [100 v1] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0000 Rev=0 Len=088 <?>
        Kernel driver in use: SAA716x TBS
        Kernel modules: saa716x_tbs-dvb


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BIOS Information
        Vendor: Intel Corp.
        Version: BGP6710J.86A.2209.2012.0717.2302
        Release Date: 07/17/2012
        Address: 0xF0000
        Runtime Size: 64 kB
        ROM Size: 4096 kB
        Characteristics:
                PCI is supported
                BIOS is upgradeable
                BIOS shadowing is allowed
                Boot from CD is supported
                Selectable boot is supported
                EDD is supported
                8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
                Serial services are supported (int 14h)
                Printer services are supported (int 17h)
                CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
                ACPI is supported
                USB legacy is supported
                ATAPI Zip drive boot is supported
                BIOS boot specification is supported
                Function key-initiated network boot is supported
                Targeted content distribution is supported
        BIOS Revision: 0.0
        Firmware Revision: 0.0

Handle 0x0007, DMI type 2, 20 bytes
Base Board Information
        Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
        Product Name: DP67BG
        Version: AAG10491-401
        Serial Number: _______________
        Asset Tag: Base Board Asset Tag
        Features:
                Board is a hosting board
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        Location In Chassis: Base Board Chassis Location
        Chassis Handle: 0x0008
        Type: Unknown
        Contained Object Handles: 0
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Re: Problem in DVB-S QPSK

Postby cody » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:58 am

it's hard to tell the exact reason for the issue - i myself have tested 6984 with 4 x 90 Mbps input without any issues and that's why it's not related to the data-rate, i.e. it's not capacity issue with the card. so, i have possible few ideas:

* more data rate at the same time means more power consumption from the card. so, one possibility is that power performance of your computer goes down in your tests scenario and that adds some noise to the tuners due to bad power supply and in such case the highest data-rate signal is affected, because it's most fragile to noise

* the other option - again, in your scenario the interference between 4 tuners could cause noise that affects the 11044:V:44950 frequency, which maybe could be avoided if the signal on that frequency is stronger. however, that idea i see as less feasible, because you provided signal statistics in Linux on your logs.

so, one thing i suggest to try that might work is in your test scenario try to lock 11044 with few MHz offset, i.e. +/- few MHz, example 11042, 11046, etc just some close frequencies around 11044 and see if that improves the performance in case the issue is related to your LNB. also, you can try the same idea with the symbol rate: instead 44950 use 44948, 44952, etc again just some close values around 44950 and check if that gives better performance. that's the only ideas i have at the moment.
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Re: Problem in DVB-S QPSK

Postby xfileslv » Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:49 am

Hello cody, thanks for reply.

cody Wrote:* more data rate at the same time means more power consumption from the card. so, one possibility is that power performance of your computer goes down in your tests scenario and that adds some noise to the tuners due to bad power supply and in such case the highest data-rate signal is affected, because it's most fragile to noise

power supply 600W is ok ? maybe you can recommended ?

cody Wrote:so, one thing i suggest to try that might work is in your test scenario try to lock 11044 with few MHz offset, i.e. +/- few MHz, example 11042, 11046, etc just some close frequencies around 11044 and see if that improves the performance in case the issue is related to your LNB. also, you can try the same idea with the symbol rate: instead 44950 use 44948, 44952, etc again just some close values around 44950 and check if that gives better performance. that's the only ideas i have at the moment.

ok, i try check it.
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Re: Problem in DVB-S QPSK

Postby cody » Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:09 am

600W seems OK to me, but another thing except what i already suggested: you shows the CC errors in Windows with TSReader and all the rest of your logs are from Linux. so, do you have the same problem in Linux or you observed it only in Windows?
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Re: Problem in DVB-S QPSK

Postby xfileslv » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:22 am

Hi.
i checked, power is 650W so for test i replace to 750W - tomorrow start test .. (maybe bad power supply in 600w)
About CC, yes, in linux this same errors in logs, getstream or astra software have output http, my PC where TSreader is connected to this PC in protocol http for get fully detail TS ( you can see in screenshot "Source : HTTP" )
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Re: Problem in DVB-S QPSK

Postby xfileslv » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:17 pm

cody Wrote:it's hard to tell the exact reason for the issue - i myself have tested 6984 with 4 x 90 Mbps input without any issues and that's why it's not related to the data-rate, i.e. it's not capacity issue with the card. so, i have possible few ideas:


cody Wrote:* more data rate at the same time means more power consumption from the card. so, one possibility is that power performance of your computer goes down in your tests scenario and that adds some noise to the tuners due to bad power supply and in such case the highest data-rate signal is affected, because it's most fragile to noise

Replace power supply to 750W - not help, this same cc errors

cody Wrote:* the other option - again, in your scenario the interference between 4 tuners could cause noise that affects the 11044:V:44950 frequency, which maybe could be avoided if the signal on that frequency is stronger. however, that idea i see as less feasible, because you provided signal statistics in Linux on your logs.

yes, signal is good and no ber.
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status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  84% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  86% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  86% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  86% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  86% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  84% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  83% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  83% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  84% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  83% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  83% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  83% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  85% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal  74% | snr  84% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK



cody Wrote:so, one thing i suggest to try that might work is in your test scenario try to lock 11044 with few MHz offset, i.e. +/- few MHz, example 11042, 11046, etc just some close frequencies around 11044 and see if that improves the performance in case the issue is related to your LNB. also, you can try the same idea with the symbol rate: instead 44950 use 44948, 44952, etc again just some close values around 44950 and check if that gives better performance. that's the only ideas i have at the moment.

checked, not help, this same cc errors.

log from astra software
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Sep 19 16:09:46: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:09:51: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62294Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:09:56: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:10:01: INFO: ready:true bitrate:61936Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:10:06: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:10:11: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:10:16: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:10:21: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:10:21: WARNING: [CC error] 181:2 47:3
Sep 19 16:10:26: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:10:31: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62294Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:10:36: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:10:41: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:10:46: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:10:51: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:10:56: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:11:01: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:11:06: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:11:06: WARNING: [CC error] 47:4
Sep 19 16:11:11: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:11:16: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:11:16: WARNING: [CC error] 44:3
Sep 19 16:11:21: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:11:21: WARNING: [CC error] 38:5 181:3 191:2
Sep 19 16:11:26: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:11:31: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:11:36: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62294Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:11:41: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:11:46: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:11:51: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:11:56: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62294Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:12:01: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:12:06: INFO: ready:true bitrate:61767Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:12:06: WARNING: [CC error] 35:2 55:3
Sep 19 16:12:11: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:12:16: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:12:21: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:12:21: WARNING: [CC error] 171:2 44:4
Sep 19 16:12:26: INFO: ready:true bitrate:61767Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:12:31: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62294Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:12:36: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:12:41: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62294Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:12:46: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:12:51: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:12:56: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:13:01: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:13:06: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:13:11: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:13:11: WARNING: [CC error] 41:3 171:3 181:5 55:4
Sep 19 16:13:16: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62294Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:13:16: WARNING: [CC error] 41:4 44:6
Sep 19 16:13:21: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:13:26: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62294Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:13:31: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:13:36: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:13:41: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:13:46: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:13:51: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:13:56: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:14:01: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:14:06: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:14:11: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:14:16: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:14:16: WARNING: [CC error] 48:2
Sep 19 16:14:16: INFO: [analyze TS] CC: ERROR
Sep 19 16:14:17: INFO: [analyze TS] CC: OK
Sep 19 16:14:21: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:14:21: WARNING: [CC error] 36:3 48:3
Sep 19 16:14:26: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62294Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:14:31: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:14:36: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:14:36: WARNING: [CC error] 44:7 55:6
Sep 19 16:14:41: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:14:46: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:14:51: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:14:56: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:15:01: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62294Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:15:06: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62294Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:15:11: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:15:15: INFO: [analyze TS] CC: ERROR
Sep 19 16:15:16: INFO: [analyze TS] CC: OK
Sep 19 16:15:16: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:15:16: WARNING: [CC error] 201:3 202:3
Sep 19 16:15:21: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:15:21: WARNING: [CC error] 41:5 44:9 201:4
Sep 19 16:15:26: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62294Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:15:31: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:15:36: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:15:41: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:15:46: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:15:51: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:15:56: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62273Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:15:56: WARNING: [CC error] 41:6 47:6
Sep 19 16:16:01: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62294Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:16:06: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:16:11: INFO: ready:true bitrate:61757Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:16:16: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s
Sep 19 16:16:21: INFO: ready:true bitrate:62283Kbit/s


I for test change to other motherboard model intel, this same errors in previous motherboard.
For test i removed disecq - works directly : this same errors in CC.

Maybe you have others idea ?

I take harmonic preview 7000 for test, connect to this transponder, no errors, no cc.
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Re: Problem in DVB-S QPSK

Postby crazycat » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:45 pm

This common problem for dual demod IC's (6984 use 2x dual demod CX24117). If you want good performance at high bitrates (SR>30000Ks) - need use only one demod path.
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Re: Problem in DVB-S QPSK

Postby xfileslv » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:21 am

crazycat Wrote:This common problem for dual demod IC's (6984 use 2x dual demod CX24117). If you want good performance at high bitrates (SR>30000Ks) - need use only one demod path.

hmm. but in @cody work 4 inputs and one input is 90Mbps, so this is not problem in demod CX24117, totaly 1 dual demod CX24117 (2 inputs) get 180Mbps

cody Wrote:it's hard to tell the exact reason for the issue - i myself have tested 6984 with 4 x 90 Mbps input without any issues and that's why it's not related to the data-rate, i.e. it's not capacity issue with the card. so, i have possible few ideas:


@Added :
xfileslv Wrote:if i take channels from 3 inputs (D-0, B-2, D-3) - i get many CC in input D (adapter0), others inputs work without CC (adapter 0, adapter 2 and adapter 3)
if i take channels from 3 inputs (C-1, B-2, D-3) - no errors, all works perfect (adapter 1, adapter 2 and adapter 3)


if i correct understand adapter0 and adapter1 this is one dual demon CX24117.
so, if correct, you can see my first post where i test inputs...
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Re: Problem in DVB-S QPSK

Postby xfileslv » Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:25 pm

any idea ?
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