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DiSEqC 1.2 is NOT working with TVSource version 4.5 software

DiSEqC 1.2 is NOT working with TVSource version 4.5 software

Postby lujo » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:11 am

Hi,

I have described my problems on dvblogic forum. Please see: http://www.dvblogic.com/phpBB3/viewtopi ... 56&t=19168

"Sollution to my problem was to delete tbsciapi.dll from C:\Program Files\DVBLogic\DVBLink\sources\TBS_6922\devices
Without this file (tbsciapi.dll) 4.5 version of bda.dev is also working with DiSEqC 1.2 on TBS 6922 DVB card."

Can someone tell me is there something wrong with tbsciapi.dll or is dvblogic not correct using this api.dllile?
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Re: DiSEqC 1.2 is NOT working with TVSource version 4.5 soft

Postby steven » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:51 am

Hi lujo

It is strange after see the topic on DVBLogic,The CI Dll not contained the DiSEqc information.
Would you mind using this DLL to have a test:
https://hotfile.com/dl/164380253/eba4940/TbsCIapi.dll.html

And send the test report here. :)

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Re: DiSEqC 1.2 is NOT working with TVSource version 4.5 soft

Postby lujo » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:20 am

Hi steven,

I have tried it with your dll but the problem is the same.
My dish is on 23.5E satellite.
When I try to scan 11719.00 frequency on 19.2E I get message Tuning failed. That is because on 23.5E there is nothing on 11719.00 frequency. So the dish is not moving.

There must be something wrong with this DLL?
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Re: DiSEqC 1.2 is NOT working with TVSource version 4.5 soft

Postby steven » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:21 am

Hi lujo

It can not be the ci dll's problem,it is just a CI module ,it do not send DiSEqc and lock Transponder,Would you mind using other soft
to have a test such as DVBViewer or DVBDream?

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Re: DiSEqC 1.2 is NOT working with TVSource version 4.5 soft

Postby lujo » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:33 pm

I know it sounds strange but this ci dll is THE problem in combination with TVSource. I have tested it 10 times today, with and without this dll. Every time that I add this dll Diseqc is not working. Without this dll Diseqc is working ok.

The only problem is when I try to scan transponder that is also on another satellite

Example:

- Dish is on 19.2
1. Scan transponder 11739 on 23.5 gives me channels which are on 11739 but on 19.2
2. Scan transponder 11739 on 23.5 gives me right channels. Channels that are on 23.5

So I need to scan for the second time to get the right channels.

My conclusion is that TBS 6922 beging with scanning before diseqc is working and dish is moved to another position.

Question: Is this behaviour caused by the faulty driver or by the software TVSource?


I have also tested it today with TBSviewer (from the TBS website).
With TBSviewer it doesn't matter if I use tbsciapi.dll or not. But with this application I also have problems with DiSEqC 1.2

I am using preset position 3 and 4 to change between 19.2 and 23.5
When I use preset position 3 to scan 19.2 that is working ok.
But when I change preset position to 4 to scan 23.5 I still get the same channels from 19.2. No matter how many times i use button "Scan frequency".

The only solution to this problem is to close application TBSviewer and open it again to scan another satellite.
So to scan another satellite you have to close and open application and scan another one. Every time.

Question: Is it the driver that causes those problems?
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Re: DiSEqC 1.2 is NOT working with TVSource version 4.5 soft

Postby steven » Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:28 am

Hi lujo

TBS6922 is not a CI device so DVBLogic do not need to load the CI DLL,we have contacted this
with DVBLogic,any progress we will contact you as soon as possible.

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Re: DiSEqC 1.2 is NOT working with TVSource version 4.5 soft

Postby lujo » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:29 pm

With DVB Viewer Pro v4.9.6.20 I also sometimes don't get the picture of the channel:

16:23:50.853: Ch: 317 - VH1 Classic
16:23:50.853: Programm crc: CDF5B41D
16:23:52.889: PMT not found...
16:23:54.899: CAT not found...

16:23:54.899: PMT: ACamd_PMT.txt, search, not found PMT=013D (AND SID=6FF1)
16:23:54.899: 0x013D 0x6FF1 0x0000 0x00000000 0x0000 0x0000 11111110
16:23:54.899: Exit, no channel data, posible no [PMT Scan] or [PMT not found]...

But if I change to another channel on that same satellite and than back to the same channel (VH1 Classic for example) then I will get the picture:

Questions:
1. What is this PMT and CAT exactly?
2. Is this driver of hardware defect?
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Re: DiSEqC 1.2 is NOT working with TVSource version 4.5 soft

Postby lujo » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:01 am

Steven, I have done some more test and those are my results:

19H --> 28V = X
19V --> 28H = OK
19V --> 28V = X

28H --> 19V = OK
28V --> 19H = OK
28V --> 19V = OK

I think TBS 6922 don't give enough power to correctly send motor to the correct position and change between H and V so that I can scan transponder correctly. Do you think this is also the case or is it something else?
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Re: DiSEqC 1.2 is NOT working with TVSource version 4.5 soft

Postby steven » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:42 am

Hi lujo

Thanks for your test report.

19H --> 28V = X
19V --> 28H = OK
19V --> 28V = X

28H --> 19V = OK
28V --> 19H = OK
28V --> 19V = OK

could you please give more description about this?

>I think TBS 6922 don't give enough power to correctly send motor to the correct position and change between H and V so that I can scan transponder correctly. Do you think this is also the case or is it something else?

If TBS6922 can move the dish this means the power is no problem,The only problem maybe is the diseqc command is not right. so it do not move the motor. :)

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Re: DiSEqC 1.2 is NOT working with TVSource version 4.5 soft

Postby lujo » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:16 pm

I have done more testing and those are my findings:

All those testings are done with just scanning between transponders between different satellites.

1X means first time try = NOT ok
2X means second time and all others try = NOT ok

22000 H and V transponders
19.2E 12515 H 22000 --> 28.2E 10714 H 22000 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK
19.2E 12515 H 22000 <-- 28.2E 10714 H 22000 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK

19.2E 12515 H 22000 --> 28.2E 10876 V 22000 | DvbViewer = 1X, 2X | TVSource = 1X, 2=OK
19.2E 12515 H 22000 <-- 28.2E 10876 V 22000 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK

19.2E 11097 V 22000 --> 28.2E 10714 H 22000 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK
19.2E 11097 V 22000 <-- 28.2E 10714 H 22000 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK

19.2E 11097 V 22000 --> 28.2E 10876 V 22000 | DvbViewer = 1X, 2X | TVSource = 1X, 2=OK
19.2E 11097 V 22000 <-- 28.2E 10876 V 22000 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK

27500 H and V transponders
19.2E 11720 H 27500 --> 28.2E 11261 H 27500 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK
19.2E 11720 H 27500 <-- 28.2E 11261 H 27500 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = 1X, 2=OK

19.2E 11720 H 27500 --> 28.2E 11426 V 27500 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK
19.2E 11720 H 27500 <-- 28.2E 11426 V 27500 | DvbViewer = 1X, 2X | TVSource = 1X, 2=OK

19.2E 11778 V 27500 --> 28.2E 11261 H 27500 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSOurce = OK
19.2E 11778 V 27500 <-- 28.2E 11261 H 27500 | DvbViewer = 1X, 2X | TVSource = 1X, 2=OK

19.2E 11778 V 27500 --> 28.2E 11426 V 27500 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK
19.2E 11778 V 27500 <-- 28.2E 11426 V 27500 | DvbViewer = 1X, 2X | TVSource = 1X, 2=OK

change between 22000 on 19.2E and 27500 on 28.2E H and V transponders
19.2E 12515 H 22000 --> 28.2E 11261 H 27500 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK
19.2E 12515 H 22000 <-- 28.2E 11261 H 27500 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = 1X, 2=OK

19.2E 12515 H 22000 --> 28.2E 11426 V 27500 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource =OK
19.2E 12515 H 22000 <-- 28.2E 11426 V 27500 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource =1X, 2=OK

19.2E 11097 V 22000 --> 28.2E 11261 H 27500 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK
19.2E 11097 V 22000 <-- 28.2E 11261 H 27500 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK

19.2E 11097 V 22000 --> 28.2E 11426 V 27500 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK
19.2E 11097 V 22000 <-- 28.2E 11426 V 27500 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK

change between 27500 on 19.2E and 22000 on 28.2E H and V transponders
19.2E 11720 H 27500 --> 28.2E 10714 H 22000 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK
19.2E 11720 H 27500 <-- 28.2E 10714 H 22000 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = 1X, 2 = OK

19.2E 11720 H 27500 --> 28.2E 10876 V 22000 | DvbViewer = 1X, 2X | TVSource = 1X, 2 = OK
19.2E 11720 H 27500 <-- 28.2E 10876 V 22000 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = 1X, 2 = OK

19.2E 11778 V 27500 --> 28.2E 10714 H 2200 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK
19.2E 11778 V 27500 <-- 28.2E 10714 H 2200 | DvbViewer = 1X, 2X | TVSource = 1X, 2=OK

19.2E 11778 V 27500 --> 28.2E 10876 V 2200 | DvbViewer = 1X, 2X | TVSource 1X, 2=OK
19.2E 11778 V 27500 <-- 28.2E 10876 V 2200 | DvbViewer = 1X, 2X | TVSource 1X, 2=OK


I am using Moteck SG-1200A:
speed: 1.9/sec (at 13V); 2.5/sec (at 18V)
Power consumption: 50 mA (Standby)/ 200mA (Normal)/350mA (Max.)
Input Voltage 13/18 Vdc
Pitput Voltage: 13/18Vdc ( according to input)

I have tested this couple ot times and the results stay the same.

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Example:

19.2E 12515 H 22000 --> 28.2E 10876 V 22000 | DvbViewer = 1X, 2X | TVSource = 1X, 2=OK
19.2E 12515 H 22000 <-- 28.2E 10876 V 22000 | DvbViewer = OK | TVSource = OK


First time attempt: Switching between 19.2E 12515 H 22000 to 28.2E 10876 V 22000:
- first time attempt: dish begins with moving and comes to te correct position of 28.2E satellite
- but this first time I get channels which are on 19.2E satellite on 10876 V 22000 position and not on 28.2E satellite

Second time attempt: Switching between 19.2E 12515 H 22000 to 28.2E 10876 V 22000:
- dish is not moving (stays at correct 28.2E position, is moved already by the first attampt)
- scans correct channels on the 28.2E satellite 10876 V 22000


With DvbViewer when scanning between 19.2E 12515 H 22000 to 28.2E 10876 V 22000:
- Dish is not moving to 28.2E satellite, first time, second time. It does not matter how many times I try.
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Stevan, can you say anything about those results?
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